Comments on: XForms For The Masses http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/xforms-for-the-masses/ Claus Wahlers on Application Development, Web Standards and what not Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Claus Wahlers http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/xforms-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Claus Wahlers Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:08:09 +0000 http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/?p=19#comment-20 <blockquote>so, by “wait for the next plugin version”, do you mean the capabilities of the new player will determine what new features will make it into DENG 2? meaning, the current player poses too many problems?</blockquote> Yes, that is correct. The main problem is poor performance. I have hopes that in the new player this won't be a problem anymore.

so, by “wait for the next plugin version”, do you mean the capabilities of the new player will determine what new features will make it into DENG 2? meaning, the current player poses too many problems?

Yes, that is correct. The main problem is poor performance. I have hopes that in the new player this won’t be a problem anymore.

]]> By: Emmanuel Okyere http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/xforms-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Emmanuel Okyere Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:20:07 +0000 http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/?p=19#comment-19 Aaaa... rather the opposite; DENG/UGO see a lot more accelerated dev growth because of the successes here... great stuff :) ... so, by "wait for the next plugin version", do you mean the capabilities of the new player will determine what new features will make it into DENG 2? meaning, the current player poses too many problems? or are you positing that MM might be working on a Forms package themselves (and no, mx.screens.Form isn't even close to what i'm talking about)? eokyere Aaaa… rather the opposite; DENG/UGO see a lot more accelerated dev growth because of the successes here… great stuff :) … so, by “wait for the next plugin version”, do you mean the capabilities of the new player will determine what new features will make it into DENG 2? meaning, the current player poses too many problems? or are you positing that MM might be working on a Forms package themselves (and no, mx.screens.Form isn’t even close to what i’m talking about)?

eokyere

]]> By: Claus Wahlers http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/xforms-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Claus Wahlers Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:47:03 +0000 http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/?p=19#comment-18 Emmanuel, maybe my words were misleading. i didn't say UGO "has to die". I said FormFaces "may mark the end of the UGO Project as we know it today". Like you, i think the concept has a lot of potential. However, it seems that some people put together a working, cross browser ECMAScript XForms renderer there, which would be great. The engine has an open source license, so instead of cooking our own (which is <em>a lot</em> of work), we can consider plugging the FormFaces engine into UGO, or vice versa spice up FormFaces with UGO elements. By the way: as soon as the Flash Player 8 is released, the Flash part of the DENG engine is going to evolve into a version 2.0. Lately, i was a bit unsure what direction the Flash part of DENG should be heading to (fix/enhance DENG1 vs. rewrite on top of a DOM3 implementation vs. wait for the next plugin version), but now i have a pretty clear idea of what DENG2 will be. cheers, claus. Emmanuel,
maybe my words were misleading. i didn’t say UGO “has to die”. I said FormFaces “may mark the end of the UGO Project as we know it today”. Like you, i think the concept has a lot of potential. However, it seems that some people put together a working, cross browser ECMAScript XForms renderer there, which would be great. The engine has an open source license, so instead of cooking our own (which is a lot of work), we can consider plugging the FormFaces engine into UGO, or vice versa spice up FormFaces with UGO elements.
By the way: as soon as the Flash Player 8 is released, the Flash part of the DENG engine is going to evolve into a version 2.0. Lately, i was a bit unsure what direction the Flash part of DENG should be heading to (fix/enhance DENG1 vs. rewrite on top of a DOM3 implementation vs. wait for the next plugin version), but now i have a pretty clear idea of what DENG2 will be.
cheers,
claus.

]]> By: Emmanuel Okyere http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/xforms-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Emmanuel Okyere Thu, 24 Mar 2005 04:48:50 +0000 http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/?p=19#comment-17 It's interesting that you feel UGO has to "die" now... I thought one of the most important features for UGO was the fact that it would render (quoting from the project page) "ranging from recent or legacy browsers' Javascript implementations, to Flash Player 6 and 7, to other ECMAScript-based implementations"... rendering on the Flash player, imho, was one of the most important features of DENG... the player's penetration numbers have always been very interesting (and important) and the possibilities of proper/lightly coded forms and the capabilities of the player should be a dream for anyone. I certainly feel UGO has a place among all the forms offerings cropping up :) eokyere It’s interesting that you feel UGO has to “die” now… I thought one of the most important features for UGO was the fact that it would render (quoting from the project page) “ranging from recent or legacy browsers’ Javascript implementations, to Flash Player 6 and 7, to other ECMAScript-based implementations”… rendering on the Flash player, imho, was one of the most important features of DENG… the player’s penetration numbers have always been very interesting (and important) and the possibilities of proper/lightly coded forms and the capabilities of the player should be a dream for anyone. I certainly feel UGO has a place among all the forms offerings cropping up :)

eokyere

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